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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick,alt.magick.ethics From: catherine yronwodeSubject: Re: High and Low Magic - Another Opinion Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:47:01 GMT Meph wrote: > > "High Magic", AKA "Western Ceremonial Magick" is more based on > intellect and bending the Universe's will to your will by pure force > of mind. It is usually (but not always) more heavily 'high-church' > ritual-oriented; i.e., very long, detailed, complex rituals that > change little from invocation to invocation. In many (but not all) > cases the ultimate goal is to communicate with a higher power (e.g. > angels); sometimes a real-world change is desired (e.g., money, > healing). Examples include Crowley, OTO, Hermatic. > > "Low Magic", AKA "Pagan" is more based on aligning your will to that > of the Universe. It is usually (but not always) more 'low-church' > ritual-oriented; i.e. rituals are simpler and may not be replicated > at different occurrances of the same celebration. In many (but not > all) cases the ultimate goal is real-world change (e.g., money, > healing); sometimes a communication with a higher power is desired > (e.g. Drawing Down the Goddess/God). Examples include Wicca, > Witchcraft, shamanism. > > Note I don't include 'worship' or diety in either. In my experience, > both types have adherents that are very 'religious' in their > practice of magic (i.e., very diety-of-choice oriented) and both > have adherents that practice magic without any trappings of religion > or worship. You have either left out or wrongly defined the bulk of folk-magic, which is not neo-pagan or wiccan in orientation. Seveal vast continents' worth of pracitioners of folk-magic would not necessarily agree with you that what they do is "based on aligning [their] will to that of the Universe." The terminolory and concept you present are senseless in almost all instances of hoodoo, brujeria, and stregha spell-casting and they do not relate at all to Middle Eastern, Mediterranean, and Aegean folk-magic customs or practices surrounding the belief in the evil eye, either. Cordially, cat yronwode news:alt.lucky.w --- discussions on folk magic, luck, amulets, charms Lucky Mojo Curio Co. http://www.luckymojo.com/luckymojocatalogue.html Send e-mail with your street address to catalogue@luckymojo.com and receive our free 32 page catalogue of hoodoo supplies and amulets
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