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JMax555: Nosuchthingasachaosmagician

To: alt.magick
From: mordred 
Subject: JMax555: Re: Nosuchthingasachaosmagician
Date: 21 May 1995 02:42:38 GMT

[from alt.magick.chaos: "Joseph Max.555" ]

I recall bashing this concept about in the old Temple Babel of the 

One way around the quandry was to assume the "title" of CHAOTE as a 
general term of description, and reserve the designation of "Chaos 
Magician" as a temporary mantle ONLY when actually performing a magickal 
work; in effect, when one banishes with laughter at the end of a working, 
one banishes the persona of "magician" as well. We thought this was in 
keeping with the general idea of magick being a VERB, not a noun - it is 
someting you DO, not something you ARE. All manifestation arises from the 
Primal Chaos for a limited time and is gone. A "proper" Chaote (one who 
embraces Chaos as a guide to existance) should adopt a similar attitude 
to the working of magick. I have no problem with taking on manifestation 
on a temporary basis, for what is all of existence but this? It is 
important to remember to include the fourth dimension, time, in this 
process - it aligns oneself with the Primal Chaos more completely and 
efficiently. Thus the quandry is solved, at least to MY satisfaction .

Otherwise, to embrace the "there is no such thing" idea completely, the 
only possible congruent action is NO action, and even THAT is an action! 
We are trapped on the plane of duality - quit bitching about it! Or go 
join the Buddhists and contemplate the Nothingness until you get a nice 
big ball of navel-lint...

Semantics... sheesh...

- J:.M:.555

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