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To: alt.magick
From: Jon Browne 
Subject: Re: A.'.A.'. CIRCULAR O
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:30:09 +0100

In article , Clay Holden
>Yeah, but did Wordsworth write the rest of the lyrics to "Assault and 
>Battery"? If so, I need to spend much more time studying my English 

Shoulda been (Brock/Wordsworth) on the label, then :)
>And just as an idle question, if there were no Michael Moorcock and 
>Hawkwind, would it be necessary for Chaos magicians to invent them ;-)

HW, perhaps not, but Mike maintains the 8-arrowed symbol of Chaos was
entirely his invention. It was first described on Gaynor The Damned's
shield in an Elric story in '62 or '63. He's not bothered by it's
proliferation, but finds it amusing it has been taken as an archetype.
Is there any record of this symbol prior to say 1960, would you know?  
>Anyway, would it be a silly assumption on my part that Hawkwind have been 
>a major formative influence on an awful lot of students and practitioners 
>of Magick (and not just in England)?

Well, they certainly did me, absolutely. My suspisions were largely
confirmed when I saw Nik Turner doing what looked very like the LBRP
onstage at Stonehenge in 1984. I met Lemmy a couple of times and I get
the distinct impression he knows what's up too. I still follow them
pretty closely, and there is the same extended family thing in the UK
that the Grateful Dead had over in the US. I never met a HW fan I didn't
like. There are only one or two "interested parties" on the Hawkwind
listserv, though. When I said I thought there was more to the name than
Bignose Nik farting, I was (gently) ribbed for being a conspiracy

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