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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.magick From: tyaginatorSubject: DMKraig: Supreme Inv Rit of the Pent (Modern Magick query) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 21:54:51 GMT Orig-From: Donald Michael Kraig nagasiva said at "Q on MM: Supreme Inv Rit of the Pent". [Oct/08/2001Mon 11:51] > >Newsgroups: alt.magick > >From: dark.elf@home.com (Wayne Crawford) > >Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 02:16:43 GMT > >Subject: SIRP Questions > >Reply-To: dark.elf@home.com > > Hi all, > > I've been going over the Supreme Invoking Ritual of the Pentagram and > I'm coming to question some of the pentagrams. I'm considering > possibly making some changes that make sense to me (at this time) ocne > I'm comfortable with the ritual, but I'd like to get the input of > others, as well. > > The pentagram for Spirit Equilibrating Passive seems to me to be the > Water Invoking Pentagram. It doesn't sit well with me at this time > that the standard Water Invoking Pentagram is drawn in the same way as > the Air Banishing Pentagram. > > Same with the Spirit Closing Active Pentagram, to me, this seems more > like a Fire Invoking Pentagram. > > Below is my complete list of possible changes: > > Spirit Equilibrating Passive becomes Water Invoking. > Spirit Closing Passive becomes Water Banishing. > Spirit Closing Active becomes Fire Invoking. > Spirit Equilibrating Active becomes Fire Banishing. > Fire Banishing becomes Spirit Invoking. > Fire Invoking becomes Spirit Banishing. > > Having only 2 pentagrams for Spirit makes more sense to me, but I > would love to hear where my inexperience has lead to flawed logic. > > Wayne > > [0=0] < [Me] > [5=6] Greetings. This happens to be a point that I have been debating with others, as well as in my own mind, for years. I can only give you the reasons why I support the tradition. YMMV. I don't think that the people who created and popularized the ritual were just "armchair magicians." That is, they didn't just think "This will work" and then passed down "the law" that everyone must use it. Rather, they, themselves used it and discovered that it worked. But, as was pointed out, it seems somewhat logically uncomfortable. Aren't those pentagrams the same? The answer, I believe, is two-fold. First, waving the arms in the air does nothing. Nor will drawing 10,000 pentagrams in the air IF you don't know what you are doing. I'm not saying that the physical action is unimportant. What I am saying is that it contributes to a magical act and is not, in an of itself magical. So what happens during the SIRP? Obviously, the magician practicing it is not just waving his or her hands through the air. The physical action emphasizes the act of Will and the mental action. Thus, the mind and body are working in harmony to affect an astral and/or physical change. So the real question is the second part of this: what's going on in the astral. If you look at the outline of the ritual which is on page 214 of MM (the entire ritual can also be found in other books), you will see that there is an order of performance. At each quarter, you first make an active or passive equilibrated pentagram of spirit and charge it with Enochian. Then you make an inner wheel and charge it with an appropriate Hebrew God name. This effectively (if done with knowledge and energized enthusiasm) results in opening a doorway (the "wheel" is obviously the wheel of the zodiac). Once opened, you then perform an additional set of ritual actions. Specifically, you do the invoking pentagrams of the elements and charge them with explicit kerubic diagrams. This, I believe, is the answer. Use a key, open a door and walk into a room. You see there is a door to another room. You use a different key, but the door knob works the same way for each room. One opens an outer room, another opens an inner room. The action is the same, but the key (charging) is different. This, I hope, explains why I prefer to use the tradition. However, it is, after all, only a tradition. If somebody wishes to change it, that's fine with me. The only thing I would respectfully suggest is that the person who makes the change acknowledge that is his or her variation and that she or he keep accurate records on successes (if they occur) and consider sharing them with other people later on. Respectfully, DMK
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