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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.magick.goetia,alt.christnet.demonology From: Gnomedplume@aol.com (Gnome d Plume) Subject: Re: 'Real' vs. 'Fake' Grimoires (was necronomicon) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:44:00 GMT On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 04:39:40 GMT, "Ta|oN"wrote: (Snip) >> >> > Try "Aleister Crowley's Illustrated Goetia" or "The Enochian World >> > of Aleister Crowley" by Lon Milo Duquette. Or "The Book of >> > Solomon's Magick" by C.R. Runyon. >> >> not quite the puzzle or entertainment. >> >> > The Goetic and Enochian systems have evolved, been tested, >> >> the Goetia reads like a third-grader constructed its puny directory >> from amongst 10-15 mix-n-match 'characters' of 'demons'. it lacks >> creativity beyond the wild imagination of the author at points >> where describing the spirits. it is not my impression that this >> text is more than an amusement amongst magicians where it fails to >> become a mechanism by which the clever psycho-analyst attempts to >> get in touch with their deep mind (something I consider altogether >> different than summoning demons, though their character may prove >> similar at times). *******The above comment is perhaps the most uninformed and childish flip-off of the most widely used and effective system of "Real Magic" in the Western world today. In comparison to the various fake *Necronomicons* the *Lemegeton* is redwood among sprouts. The sort of peevish kevetching seen above is what you can expect from teenage Gothic role-players who have neither the will nor the resolve to become real magicians. You want a "real" old magick book that works, and even has some of the most horrible beasties you can imagine (if that's your bag) then try this: ******Review: *The Lesser Key of Solomon* edited by Joseph H. Peterson, from Samuel Wiser (Red Wheel) 2001. Recently (since 1995) we've had a surge of interest in Solomonic magick and several versions of the Goetia, and even the complete Lemegeton, have become available. Finally we have a definitive edition carefully compiled, annotated and commented upon in a scholarly fashion. It is also handsomely published in hard covers and (at the present reduced price) quite a bargain. Unlike most backyard Goetias and Lemegetons, Peterson does not rely solely on Sloane MS. 2731 but chooses the more complete Harley MS. 6483 as his base text with comparative notes referencing other MSS. He also traces the origins of all the five books in his concise but highly detailed introduction. Several points that Peterson's augmentations from other manuscripts bring forth are of considerable interest--especially to those of us working Solomonic systems. I was happy to see the circle in the center of the Triangle of Art "blacked in" in two other versions of the Goetia besides Sloane 2731, lending more confirmation to our dark mirror theory. I was also happily surprised to discover that Harley MS. 6438 used the Shemehamphorash invocations on the back of their Brass Vessel sigils just as we decided to do (before we were aware of the precedent) in our practice (see *The Book of Solomon's Magick*). Peterson also cites and presents the Almadel type drawing from *Sepher Schelomoh* (that we also displayed) and a similar sketch from a newly acquired (at the Brit. Lib.) Hebrew version of the Almadel. All considered Peterson's *The Lesser Key of Solomon* is probably the best reference Lemegeton we will see for many years to come. But in order to work the system you still need to come Savedow, DuQuette or to us. ******* >> > and successfully worked by generations of magicians. >> > They work, and they work well. >> >> how can you tell? success stories? to what end? are there people >> winning lotteries after having consulted with treasure-finding >> goetic demons? not of which I am aware. ****** That's not what we practice magick for. As for real and profound results, have a look at *Dark Mirror of Magick, The Vassago Millennium Prophecy* http://members.aol.com/CHSOTA/dmirror.html (video documentary of what may well be the most significant magical operation in the past 50 years.) ****** Good Magick! Gnome d Plume
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