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To: alt.magick From: Gnomedplume@aol.com (Gnome d Plume) Subject: Re: Goetia astrological decan associations Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 04:21:00 GMT On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:45:20 GMT, diox@diox.com (diox) wrote: >On 17 Oct 2002 07:47:10 -0700, stargazerj19@hotmail.com (datagirl) wrote: > >>Can someone here expalin the correlation between the Goetia and the >>decans of the Zodiac each demon is associated with? >> >>I understand why each has a metal attributed to them (for talisman >>creation)... but why a decan association? > >read lemegeton 6 : > >http://home.nordnet.fr/~avalfroy/magie/Lemegeton.html > >Diox ****Aude: The best guess is that they originally derived from the 72 (quinaces) Ancient Egyptian good and bad "Gods" of the zodiac. At some point the "bad" gods dropped out and the 36 good gods became the Decans. However, the original 72 hung on in the shadows as good and bad spirits. At some point one of the medieval magical systemizers came up with this (IMO) pointless "Day" and "Night" demon business and put the whole sequence out of phase. Medievalists had a tendency to split-off and lump such sequences into triplicities and quatranaries---e.g. the Enochian Tablets---but we chose to disregard it and move straight around the circle the way the Shemhamephorash does. And speaking of that, there was no original connection between the Goetia demons (a Arabian/Christian system) and the Shemhamephorash (Hebrew) but as soon as they leaked into the Hermetic qabalah, the Goetia magicians picked them up (see Joe Peterson's Lemegeton). We stole 'um fair-and-square and they've been ours for several hundred years. **** Good Magick! Gnome d Plume
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