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The Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn

To: alt.magick,alt.magick.order,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.thelema,alt.pagan.magick
From: "Fr. A.o.C." 
Subject: Re: The Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn (LONG response to 333)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:23:53 GMT

Thank you, oh Secret Chief.

You comments crystallize a particular point: it seems like if we had
only changed ONE THING -- if we had left every last bit of the old GD
rituals intact but moved Ra-Hoor to the throne of the East, that itself
would have been so much of a change that Re would be insisting we have
no right to call ourselves "Golden Dawn".

Hey, we still could have left "Horus the Younger" in the West; the old
Order had "Horus the Elder" on the Past Hierophant's throne. THAT made a
lot of sense, didn't it? The son of the King/Hierophant was represented
as the PAST Hierophant. Did I miss something?

Even having the Prince of the Sun in the place of Dark and Twilight (the
West), wearing black and declaring himself, "I am the Darkness..."
always seemed a bit odd to me.

Instead we have Ra-Hoor on the throne of the rising sun, Set on the
throne of darkness, and Osiris on the throne of the Past Hierophant.
 Why, that makes no sense at all, does it? 

But hey, logic and common sense be damned! We're talking about
*tradition* here! (Strike up the chorus of Zero Mostels in yarmulkes
with fiddles singing, "Tra-di-tioooooooon, TRADITION!") "Greatly Honored
Frater Westcott said so, and that's good enough for me!"

- Fr. A.o.C.

"Why don't you join the Rosicrucians, 
They can give you back your hope,
You can find your love with diagrams 
In a plain brown envelope." 
-- Leonard Cohen

> {Secret Chief} wrote: 
> > Re O'Stat  wrote in message news:...

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