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To: alt.magick From: Al BillingsSubject: Re: Aurum Solis: Phoney? Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:27:16 -0800 On 26 Jan 2003 15:01:08 -0800, bloodofenoch@goddamnfruit.com ({ Secret Chief }) wrote: >But what I do object to is the phoney baloney historical narrative >concocted for AS, attempting to pass it off as a wholly separate >"tradition" with no roots in GD theory or practice. > >If I can see any documentation whatsoever on the purported >AS-ancestory organization, Societas Rotae Fulgentis, or the alleged >founders, George Stanton or Charles Kingold, I will be happy to revise >my opinion. Why bother? It doesn't matter and it probably won't change your opinion. I doubt if anyone alive today could prove it to your satisfaction and there are probably few, if any, people who could furnish any sort of documentation. Given that the old Aurum Solis papers and the like are in the hands of Osborne Philips and he and his new partner have gone completely Christian, certainly none of us still following the tradition in the U.S. are going to be able to "prove" anything based on documentation. At this point, it comes down to opinion. It is pretty clear from published material that quite a few ex-Golden Dawn people joined the order before the 50's and that it is likely that the tension between the practices that they brought in (including masonic style ritual work) and the practices current before that caused the rift in the order outlined in various printings of the Magical Philosophy series. When the order re-united a couple of decades later, a lot of re-organization of material occured. In other words, the Golden Dawn influences are known and tacitly acknowledged. That's not the same as saying that the Ogdoadic tradition is just the GD tradition with a few serial numbers filed off. It isn't and the work is often quite different in character and in basic structure. You just need to actually become famaliar with the published materials in order to actually see it. Having worked in both a Golden Dawn-derived order and within the Aurum Solis, its very clear as a practitioner that they aren't one and the same even though there are strong borrowings and both ultimately derive a lot from the same sources of Western magic. LVX, Al
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