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From: Khephera%363-263-777@satlink.oau.org (Khephera)

[some omission]

n> I have only a passing familiarity with Dee and Enochia.  Anything you'd care
n> to say in private or public about the Sigilvm I'd be grateful.  I have a

It'll have to be private, as I'm having problems with Internet.  I go through
Fido to get it, and it won't let me post.  If you would, go ahead and
Cross-Post all of this into the echo for others to respond to...

[evidence thereof]

n> photo of it and thus can refer as you describe.  Lots of crosses and what
n> seem to be Latin and/or Greek words, likely names of Horrid Energies. :>

Oh, not at all. :)  I'll give you the secret to unlocking those names, you will
be pleasently surprised (especially if you know any Qabalah).

I'll start with the Heptagon just inside the Circumfrance (the one whoes sides
each have seven letters on it).  You start with the first one marked: ZllRHia.
I'll just list the whole thing down:

Z l l R H i a
a Z C a a c b
p a u p n h r
h d m h i a i
k k a a e e e
i i e e l l l
e e l l M G +

Now...read the columns downward (starting on the left):

Zaphkiel  (ArchAngel of Saturn and Binah)
Zadkiel   (ArchAngel of Jupiter and Chesed)
Cumael    (ArchAngel of Mars and Gevurah)
Raphael   (ArchAngel of Sol and Tiphareth)
Haniel    (ArchAngel of Venus and Netzach)
Michael   (ArchAngel of Mercury and Hod)
Gabriel   (ArchAngel of Luna and Yesod)

These are "The Seven who Stand Before God".  As a note:  on my own Seal of
Truth, I'm going to be switching the Names of Michael and Raphael.  Older
Sources have Michael as the Archangel of Sol, and Raphael as Mercury.  I feel
these to be more "correct" than the Dee (and Golden Dawn) association.

OK.  Next we have the Seven Names of God that even the Angels hardly know.
Notice that many of these names have numbers in them.  21 = E, 8 and 30 = L.
The Names written together look like this:

s a a i e m e
b t z k a s e
h e i d e n e
d e i m o l a
i m e g c b e
i l a o i v n
i h i l a a e

Now.  Start at the "s" at the upper left.  Go to the "a" and down (diagonally)
to the "b".  Back up to the second "a" and diagonal down that line through the
"t" and the "h".  Keep going in this lightning-bolt fashion, and you get:

Sabathiel (Angel of Saturn)
Zedekiel  (Angel of Jupiter)
Madimiel  (Angel of Mars)
Semeliel  (Angel of Sol)
Nogahiel  (Angel of Venus)
Korabiel  (Angel of Mercury)
Lavanael  (Angel of Luna)

These Angels are next in authority to The Seven.  Notice that their Names are
simply the Hebrew Names of the Planets with "el" added on the end.  Also notice
that these are the same Names to be found around the Pentagram in the center of
the Seal.

Then, these same Seven Names of God are used to make other Angel Names (those
found around the Heptagrams). I'll relist the Seven Names of God first:

s a a i e m e
b t z k a s e
h e i d e n e
d e i m o l a
i m e g c b e
i l a o i v n
i h i l a a e

Now, first are the Seven Daughters:

Start at the E in the upper right.  That Angel (E, or El) is found in the upper
angle of the Heptagram.  Now draw a diagonal slash through the M to the E under
the top E.  That is Me, and She is found in the angle clockwise from El.

Keep drawing diagonal slashes through the names until you get all Seven
Daughters:

E (El)
Me
Ese
Iana
Akele
Azdobn
Stimcvl

Next follow the Seven Sons of Light.  These Names (on the Seal) are found on
the Heptagram itself.  Start with I at the top, and follow the line of the
Heptagram until you hit another Name (Ih).  You get these Names by starting at
the I in the lower right of the group of GodNames.

I
Ih
Ilr
Dmal
Heeoa
Beigia
Stimcvl

Next are the Daughters of the Daughters.  Start at the S in the upper left of
the GodNames:

S
Ab
Ath
Ized
Ekiei
Madimi
Esemeli

And, finally, are the Seven Sons of the Sons.  Begin with the E in the lower
right:

E
An
Ave
Liba
Rocle
Hagone (Hagonel)
Ilemese

And that's where the Names come from.  I also will tell you about the Seven
Letters found just inside the circumfrence.  The first one (on the top to the
left) is a G with a cross over it.  The next one to the left is an A with a
cross (all seven have crosses added).  The Name is:

G A L E T H OG   or  Galethog.  It is a Name of God with Seven Seats of Power
(again, planetary).  We don't know which letters are which planets.

Finally....the Circumfrence itself.  Notice that some of the letters are
Capitol.  The first capitol letter (on the top, slightly to the right) is a G
with a 9 over it.  With these, you start at a capitol- count to the right if
the number is over the letter, and then left if the number is under the letter
(of course, you count as many spaces as the number)- and finally stop when you
hit a letter without a number over or under it.  Thus:

9 6 l 20 8
- - - -  - -     Galaas (or Galas.  You delete repeated a's)
G a 8 a  a s

7 e  t h
- -  - -  -     Gethog
G 21 9 14 og

By now you probably get the point, so I'll just list all Seven Names.  As far
as I know, They are the Seven Guardians of the Seal:

Galas
Gethog
Horlwn
Aaoth
Galethog
Innon
Thaaoth (delete one "a" for Thaoth)

Notice that one Name is Galethog.  As far as I know, this Name (though spelled
the same) is not otherwise related to the Name of God with Seven Seats of
Power.

Most people have made the mistake of assigning each of the seven letters of
Galethog (each letter with a Cross added) to the Guardians as Their Sigils.
This is incorrect, however.  Those Seven Letters with Crosses stand on their
own and are not related to the Seven Guardians.

I hope I didn't lose you anywhere!  :)  Talk to ya later!

Blessed Be, may Yahweh and His Asherah guide and keep thee,

Ar ReX Em SeXem Eref Neter Au-a
Rx
Khephera
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in email, Khephera%363-263-777@satlink.oau.org (Khephera):

[in a beautiful exposition on the derivation of the various spiritnames!]

|...the Seven Names of God that even the Angels hardly know.

|>...Lots of crosses and what seem to be Latin and/or Greek words,
|>likely names of Horrid Energies. :>

|Oh, not at all. :)  I'll give you the secret to unlocking those names,
|you will be pleasently surprised (especially if you know any Qabalah).

A little qabalah, so I recognize some of these names (very clever!)


|[ArchAngels of the Plenets and Sephiroth:] "The Seven who Stand Before God"
|[Angels of the Planets:] "Seven Names of God that even the Angels hardly know"

| ...the Hebrew Names of the Planets with "el" added on the end.  Also notice
| that these are the same Names to be found around the Pentagram in the
| center of the Seal.

Thus it appears to be a kind of mandalesque Seal, this Sigilvm Dei Aemeth,
a group of Guardians around the outside, Archangels and Angels forming the
major structure of the geometric figures, progeny of these scattered in
geometric design throughout the graphic in regular radial symmetry.

When I look into the center of the Sigilvm I notice that there is an
awkward placement of a 'Z' alongside the left of the pentacle's
upward point.  As there is no indication of an 'S' for Sabathiel's
name, are we to presume this a glitch in the works or is there some
method to it?

Could such character features (flaws?) influence the value of the working?


|...I feel [your attributions] to be more "correct" [for your Seal] than the
|Dee (and Golden Dawn) association.

How favored is Dee's work within the Golden Dawn community?

<<<<<<<<<<<
I'm attempting a rational analysis of the Sigillvm below (see how you like it):

::circle begins::
__________________________________________________

1:7 Guardians of the Seal [7 Names of God?]

  |...some of the letters are Capitol.  The first capitol letter (on the top,
  |slightly to the right) is a G with a 9 over it.  With these, you start at
  |a capitol- count to the right if the number is over the letter, and then
  |left if the number is under the letter (of course, you count as many
  |spaces as the number)- and finally stop when you hit a letter without a
  |number over or under it.

   Khephera%363-263-777@satlink.oau.org (Khephera)
__________________________________________________

2:G A L E T H OG; counter-clockwise, starting at G of top point,
  outside the heptagon.

///heptagon begins\\\\

3:7 ArchAngels (of the Planets and Sephiroth; 3-9) "The Seven who Stand
  Before God"; first on list: Zaphkiel; encyphered, first letters clock-wise,
  starting with the Z in ZllRHia, the a in aZCaacb, etc.

__________________________________________________

4:7 Angels of the Planets - "7 Names of God that even the Angels hardly know";
  (L89 in Gems has "7 Names of God which not even the Angels are ableto
  pronounce); these be in the following formation:

                1       S  A  A IEL E  M  EL

                2       B  T  Z  K  A  S  EL

                3       H  E  I  D  E  N  E

                4       D  E  I  M  O  L  A

                5       L  M  E  G  C  B  E

                6       I  L  A  O IEL V  N

                7       I  H  R  L  A  A IEL

##heptagram begins##

5: 7 Daughters

   [heptagram point-internals; in 4 above beginning top right (E/EL);
    (E, Me, Ese, Iana, Akele, Azdobn, Stimcul)]

__________________________________________________
        
6: 7 Sons of Light

   [heptagram cross-beams; in 4 above beginning lower left (I/IEL);
    (I, Heeoa, Ih, Beigia, Ilr, Stimcul, Dmul)

    NOTE: *Regardie*'s Chanokh (Gems) and Khephera:
           |I
           |Ih
           |Ilr
           |Dmal
           |Heeoa
           |Beigia
           |Stimcvl
        
            WHY?]
__________________________________________________
        
7: 7 Daughters of the Daughters
   [first interior heptagon; in 4 beginning upper left (S);
    (S, Ab, Ath, Ized, Ekiei, Madimi, Esemeli)]

__________________________________________________
        
8: 7 Sons of the Sons
   [second interior heptagon; in 4 beginning lower left (L/IEL);
    (El, An*, Aue, Liba, Iocle, Hagonel, Ilemese)]

        (NOTE: * Regardie has 'Aw' and 'Ave' here, strangely.)]

__________________________________________________


9: 7 Great Angels of the 7 Circles of Heaven
   [constructed using 4, beginning upper left (S);
    Sabathiel, Zedekiel, Madimiel, etc., which are resident within
    the center pentagram as ZABATHIEL, ZEDEKIEL, MADIMIEL, SEMELIEL,
    NOGANIEL and CORABIEL, each first letter the major letter of the
    pentagram; the last, LEVANAEL, constructing a cross at the center,
    LE at left, VA at top, NA on right and EL on bottom.]

++++CENTER CROSS+++++

__________________________________________________

My main interest is in examining the cosmology out of which this sigil
proceeds.  Are these Angels and Archangels seen as protectors of the
Enochian magician?

When you speak of 'Daughters' and 'Sons', are you referring to a cosmology
which includes renegade angels propagating their seed unto the human hordes
like cattle or pets, teaching them the ways of the occult and making possible
the return to God's plane?


|...Seven Seats of Power ....
|[re: Seven Seats of Power] (again, planetary).

To what do these Seats relate?
Who sits in them?


[re: name of God with 7 letters]
|...G A L E T H OG   or  Galethog.
|We don't know which letters are which planets.

Why aren't the letters directly associated with the Angels of the Planets
as rendered within the Sigillvm?

Is there any relation to this and other popular names of God/Satan like
'shemhamphorasch'?  Or should Enochian be considered entirely removed
from other systems of divination/communication/ summoning?

Where does the term 'Galethog' come from?  What language has 'og' as one
letter? Enochian?


[re: circumference letters]
|...one Name is Galethog.  As far as I know, this Name (though spelled
|the same) is not otherwise related to the Name of God with Seven Seats of
|Power.

What does this title mean: God with Seven Seats of Power?


|...mistake of assigning each of the seven letters of Galethog (each letter
|with a Cross added) to the Guardians as Their Sigils.

How can you be sure it is an error?


|This is incorrect, however.  Those Seven Letters with Crosses stand on their
|own and are not related to the Seven Guardians.

Is this derived from your own experience, reference to Dee or other authors,
consultations with other authorities, or guesswork on your part?


|Blessed Be, may Yahweh and His Asherah guide and keep thee,

Wonderful.  Are you a devotee of both of these gods?  What did you think of
the book _Snow Crash_?  Was its Babylonian and pre-Christian conjecture
consistent with modern historical exegesis and heuristics?

tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com
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