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Enochian in-depth

To: alt.magick.serious,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick
From: "Alex Sumner" 
Subject: Re: Enochian in-depth
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 23:30:33 +0100

"Scorpion-of-Osiris"  wrote in message
> I posted a couple of times about enochian magick here, and got some
> helpful answers. However, from my personal experiences, I have noticed
> a few things which I would now like to share back to you all.
> First, ( opinion),Golden Dawn/Crowley/Schueler have NO clue
> what to do with enochian magick. They put it in a mode where every one
> now blindlessly follow their set example/structure of enochian magick.

Even in the Dee diaries themselves, the functions of Enochian magic are only
described in general terms. If any of these people do not come out with a
precise list of which angel does what, it is because no such list exists
(although some have attempted to map Dee's general instructions to specific
areas of the Enochian watchtowers, e.g.: ). The challenge in
Enochian magic is to explore for oneself what it does and what it is capable

> They leave most of the work collecting dust. I'm 100% sure that to
> evoke angels/angles you do NOT use pentagrams! C'mon, lets be
> reasonable here, thats lame.

Is it? It is no more lame than the Pentagram Ritual of the Golden Dawn,
which culminates in the magician contemplating the four archangels.

> The Holy Table, Sigils, etc., are just
> cast off to the side with their 'techniques'.

Not entirely true. Crowley does mention both the Holy Table and the Sigillum
Dei Aemeth, albeit in a cursory manner. Whilst there is no mention of them
in the Golden Dawn before its break-up in 1903, Mathers did deal with them
in the AO - see "Golden Dawn Enochian Magic" by Pat Zalewski. As for what
Shueler does with them I can't say.

> Tyson is off the mark
> too mainly because he is trying to turn it into apocalyptic mumbo
> jumbo, and makes it seem more Lovecraftian than Enochian.
> Benjamin Rowe seems to unravel alot of the info, however.
> What I am searching for is the system the angels/angles would have
> wanted. There's enough Qabala in the world, so why a repeat? Enochian
> IS a complete and separate system, not to be shared with Khemetic
> dieties, etc.
> If anybody wants to go into detail, email me. The emailbox was screwy
> last few days and I'm thinking whatever mail I have gotten over the
> last week was deleted, but I think I fixed it now -LOL.
> Anyways, thanks for all the help~


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