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BOTA valid?

To: alt.magick
From: (Josh Norton)
Subject: Re: BOTA valid?
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:14:09 GMT

TomG <103665.50@CompuServe.COM> wrote:

>>Okay,  I realize the subject line may be provocative but someone 
>>out there may be able to answer one of these question for me:

>>I read somewhere that joining an order that was established by an 
>>oath breaker/dissident would be akin to taking a blood transfusion 
>>from someone with hepatitis, i.e. the current of energy into which 
>>you would be initiated is therefore (because of the broken oath) 
>>tainted.  Any thoughts on this?

You are probably better off getting to know the people involved and judging
on the basis of their character and actions, and the fruits thereof.  

There are any number of scenarios that would invalidate an oath to a
magickal organization. E.g.,

-- The "current" of that org is dying out and being superceded by another.
-- The organization has shown itself to be an unfit vehicle for the
-- The person has been contacted by the "secret chiefs" directly and given
a task that requires it, thus overriding the directions of the incarnate
-- The innate character of the current is such that it produces periodic
breakups in the organizations manifesting it.
-- Doing so is essential to the fulfillment of the person's "true will".

One or more of these could be applied to almost any of the descendants of
the Golden Dawn. 

My personal feeling is that the only oaths worth taking are those you make
to yourself, or to your "Holy Guardian Angel". Any others are, to a greater
or lesser extent, a violation of your own integrity as a divine being.

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