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The Munich Manual of Demonic Magic

To: alt.magick
From: "relayer" 
Subject: Re: The Munich Manual of Demonic Magic
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 00:36:16 +1000

Gnome d Plume wrote in message <>...
>On Tue, 03 Jul 2001 01:39:32 GMT, Leth  wrote:
>>If anyone has or knows where I can obtain a copy of this, please email
>>me with The Munich Manual of Demonic Magic as the subject header at
>> Thank you.
>About the Munich Manual; I have good news and bad news.
>The good news is that it has been recently published under the title:
>*Forbidden Rites* Richard Kieckhefer, Penn State Univ. Press.

Yes, that's the book I had in mind. Full title: "Forbidden Rites, A
Necromancer's Manual of the Fifteenth century."

>The bad news is that the text is in Latin.

...with some sections translated. Well, if you're serious, you could learn
latin ;o). Rituals sound oh-so-portentous (or was that pretentious) when
intoned in solemn latin.

>Otherwise the book is excellent. You might drop an e-mail to Prof.
>Kieckhefer, tell him how much you liked it, but remind him (as we did
>in our Seventh Ray review) that practitioners are his bread-and-butter
>on book like this---especially with a title like "Forbidden Rites." He
>owes us a useable translation.

Ok, confession time. I wrote the following from my memory of my reading
about 2 years ago...

***It didn't strike me as a book written primarily with practitioners in
mind (though I agree they would be the bulk of the market for it) To be
honest the translated parts, if they give an accurate taste of the rest of
the text, don't inspire me to delve too much deeper into it. It seems
quaint, and it's relevance to practical magick seems to be more of a
historical grounding than anything. You yourself have spoken somewhat
disparagingly about Steve Savedow's pedantic adherance to the medieval
forms. Is there really a market amoung modern magicians that would practice
the rituals in this book? I would contend that the (say) 5 or so out there
that would probably have a working grasp of latin already.***

...and now I have flicked through it again (fortunately before I hit send)
and changed my mind. Many of the rituals in this book are no more (or less)
preposterous than that mainstay of occult tradition . In fact while some of it *is*
superstitious in character it is kind of refreshing to see some new ideas.
How's that for a flip flop?

>        You will also enjoy Penn State's other "spook" book:
>*Conjuring Spirits, Texts and Traditions of Medieval Ritual Magic*
>edited by Claire Fanger. These rites are all in English. *******

I did!.


>Good Magick!
>Gnome d Plume

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