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Darcy K?tz and the Black Pullet

To: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi
From: (Sar Draconis)
Subject: Re: Darcy K?tz and the Black Pullet
Date: 7 Aug 2002 14:54:51 -0700

catherine yronwode  wrote in message news:<>...
> Sar Draconis wrote:
> > 
> > Holmes publishing group has published a very interesting volume
> > copyright 1999 by Darcy K¸ntz and Holmes publishing group, entitled
> > "The Black Pullet or The Hen with the Golden Eggs", subtitled "The
> > Science of Magical Talismans."  The 2nd page of the book states that
> > it is a translation of "La Poule Noire" from the Paris edition of
> > 1880, made by Gryffon Turner.
> > 
> > The attribution of the title of the Grimoire is erroneous; the text
> > furnished by K¸ntz and Turner is in fact from a different french
> > grimoire than La Poule Noire; in fact, they have provided instead a
> > translation of the french grimoire entitled "La GÈnie et le TrÈsor du
> > Viellard des Pyramides, Veritable Science des Talismans", or "The
> > Genie and the Treasure of the Old Man of the Pyramids, the True
> > Science of Talismans."
> > 
> > There is a 1972 french publication published by Pierre Belfond (in
> > their "Sciences SecrËtes" series) entitled "Grimoires et Rituels
> > Magiques" which presents a comprehensive set of french grimoires,
> > including both "La Poule Noire" and "Le Genie et le Tresor du Viellard
> > des Pyramides", and a careful comparative study of these texts shows
> > that undoubtedly the publication of Darcy Kuntz is definitely
> > misattributed as explained above.  The grimoire texts provided in the
> > edition of Pierre Belfond in their entirety are:
> > 
> > "Le Livre des Conjurations" du Pape Honorius
> > "Enchiridion" de sa SaintetÈ le Pape LÈon III
> > Le Dragon Rouge
> > La Poule Noire
> > Le GÈnie et Le TrÈsor du Viellard des Pyramides
> > La Chouette Noire
> > "Rituel de Haute Magie" de Cornelius Agrippa
> > 
> > I give here a portion of the text of "The Black Pullet" or "La Poule
> > Noire", which is the correct grimoire appearing under this title, as
> > taken from the Pierre Belfond edition:
> > 
> > "Prenez une poule noire qui n'ait jamais pondu et qu'aucun coq n'ait
> > approachÈe faites en sorte, en la prenant, de ne la point faire crier,
> > et pour cela vous irez y´ onze heures du soir, lorsqu'elle dormira, la
> > prendre par le cou, que vous ne serrerez qu'autant qu'il faudra, pour
> > l'empÍcher de crier; rendez-vous sur un chemin dans l'endroit o* deux
> > routes se croisent; ly´, y´ minuit sonnant, faites un rond avec une
> > baguette de cyprËs, mettez-vous au milieu, et fendez le corps de la
> > poule en deux, en prononÁant ces mots par trois fois . . ." (words of
> > power omitted out of respect for Almighty God.)
> > 
> > On the other hand, also from the same edition, the opening lines of
> > the Old Man of the Pyramids read:
> > "On me saura grÈ, je pense, avant de faire connaÓtre y´ mes lecteurs
> > comment ces secrets merveilleux m'ont ÈtÈ communiquÈs, et comment la
> > divine providence, en me faisant . . ."
> > 
> > Although Darcy K¸ntz has performed the reading public a valuable
> > service in providing an english edition of the very interesting book
> > "The Old Man of the Pyramids", I fear that it has mislead the reading
> > public by erroneously titling it "The Black Pullet" (french "Le Poule
> > Noire"), which as stated above, refers to  a completely different
> > grimoire, and actually one of quite a different character.
> > 
> > SAR
> Sar, forgive my tardiness in replying to your very interesting post.
> This matter of the Black Pullet is of great interest to me but i am
> hamstrung by my inability to read French. 
> Are you familiar with the Samuel Wiser edition of "The Black Pullet"?
> This is translated by an anonymous hand and it accords with A. E.
> Waite's sketchy description of "The Black Pullet", being attributed to
> one "A.J.S.D.R.L.G.F. in Eygypt -- 740." It tells the tale of a French
> man who is rescued and educated in "the Science of magical Talismans and
> Rings" by an old hermit who lives in a pyramid. The old man gives the
> narrator 22 talismans (which are pictured in the book) and then
> describes how to raise and train a treasure-finding Black Pullet. 
> Since this book contains both a Black Pullet *and* an "Old Man of the
> Pyramids" i wonder what the differences between the two grimpires may
> actually be, and also which book the Wieser translation is, exactly. 
> Can you describe in greater detail (in English) the differences?
> Thanks.  
> cat yronwode 
> Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic 

Hi cat,

Ditto to all previous comments.  In the Belfond edition, the Poule
Noire is part of a long section entitled "Le véritable Dragon Noir et
la Poule Noire."
The "Old Man of the Pyramids" grimoire is in a completely different

As I said before, the two grimoires are totally and completely
different.  In the Poule Noire, you sneak up on a black pullet at
11:00 p.m., and sacrifice it for a blood ritual.  The Old Man of the
Pyramids is about a sojourn in egypt and encountering an old sage
knowing how to conjure elementals using hermetic talismans.  (This
latter is reminiscent of the theme of the Felt lecture lying at the
origin of the TS.)

Interestingly, the Poule Noire grimoire gives typical Catholic prayers
following the deed, for example, the "Ave", the "Veni Creator" etc.

The "Old Man of the Pyramids" deals with a talismanic art and has
nothing to do with sacrificing hapless pullets to the demiurge.

The Belfond edition furthermore give the following introductory
remarks to the Poule Noire:

"La Poule Noire nous annonce, par la vertu de l'opération
cérémonielle, la venue à minuit d'un bel homme rouge.  Il est galonné,
porte vest jaune et culotte vert d'eau.  Mais sa tête de bête est
curmontée de cornes, ses pieds sont ceux d'une vache.  C'est qu'il
est, malgré son élégance, <>.  Vous parviendrez à
le faire vous obéir, vous servir, vous accorder le bénéfice de
prodiges appréciables.  Mais il est à craindre qu'il vous les fasse
payer de bien cruelle manière, et que sa main griffue, qu'il vous
tendra, vous entraîne en des domaines, sous terre, où les damnés
vivent le sabbat infernal de la Géhenne.  Il sera trop tard pour vous
reprendre . . ."

In other words, the goal of the Poule Noire (i.e., the Black Pullet)
ritual is to summon a demon and make a pact.  It should not be
confused with the Old Man of lthe Pyramids grimoire, a kind of
hermetic talismanic art treatise.   Thus, when you pick up your "Black
Pullet" translation, and its about the sage of the pyramids and
talismanic art, just note it should be titled "Old Man of the
Pyramids" instead.

I take it, though, that you don't have the actual "Black Pullet", but
instead, another book erroneously titled "the Black Pullet".  I don't
know why you'd want the actual "Black Pullet" anyway, unless you want
to sell your soul to the devil.  If so, then just around the corner
please . . .


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