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To: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (mordred) Subject: Art and Magick (Was Re: li'ir and magick) Date: 25 Feb 1995 10:20:02 -0800 Kali Yuga 49950225 root@jasmine.brisnet.org.au () writes: >...some friends and I were discussing art and magick. And >trying to express (to one of us) what it is to make art or work magick. Are these related or entirely separate activities? Is 'making art' a kind of magical working? >Of how a artist should strip down hir perceptions of something, until >the true nature of the something is revealed(that which it IS). And then >"recreate" (or re-express?) it in some new form. Is this a popular artistic process? Does it conform with the ways of magick? >And that, this is the heart of art/magick, a kind of transformation >(or revelation?). Perhaps art-magick is the process which uncovers something of ourselves that allows science-magick to proceed, sending it through another cycle. That is, through science we develop knowledge sufficient to prepare for the art. Through the art we transform enough to inspire a renewed science. >But in explaining this "state" in which experience of something is not >subjective(nor really objective). Our talk really broke down, because the >inherent rationality in our explanations was only building walls around >real understanding. (of a thing that posseses little connection with >rational thought) I've had similar difficulties in attempting to rationalize the artistic process, though I continue to do so. I'm trying to find a matched pair to the Scientific Method (as described in _Liber Scire_, which is as the *only* way to learn). From what we've said above, the Artistic Method (TAM) may be the only way to *grow* or transform ourselves, generating the grounds for the hypothesis around which TSM may function. tyagi
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