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Vision of the Holy Guardian Angel

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.pagan.magick
From: 333 
Subject: Re: Vision of the Holy Guardian Angel
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:22:08 GMT

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"Joe Cosby" :
>>>> ...I think he, and I think you, are more comfortable dealing with
>>>> the guardian angel as an experience of transpersonal psychology,
>>>> and not as an 'Other'.

>> most are, it seems less real and intense that way. the reality and
>> intensity can be frightening, or even unbalancing, and lead places
>> for which the initiate is unprepared.

"Asiya" :
>>> ...I think you mean when thinking about the concept, rather than
>>> when actually "dealing" with the HGA.

>> thought is an aspect of experience. those denying emotion may think
>> in order to encounter the experiential element. abstracting from
>> direct encounter makes possible a variety of response.

"Asiya" :
>I'm not sure what you mean, as far as how it applies specifically to

I don't have the confidence that the figments and splinters of
character that come through usenet forums are sufficient to
resolve these matters. better taken to private email and handled
offline. if you agree with the assessment that you prefer thinking
and transpersonal psychology (implying, apparently, that you or
someone like you may find an encounter with the HGA in abstract 
and disconnected forms beneficial), then my reflections above and
below may be helpful. if you're convinced that a personal HGA is 
the most or least powerful, then my words may sound tame by 
contrast (because they relativize the experience to the character
of the mage). 

>Can you elaborate?

all I was saying was that sometimes personal interactions are not
conducive to continued psychological integrity, for example, or
for resonance with an established, rigidified, and nonpersonalized
cosmological structure (for which such a personal interaction
would prove unsettling or, indeed, completely unhinging). it does
not make either personal or impersonal experiences of the HGA more
valuable. the 'career' of the magician and its trajectory will be
more like to determine these things.


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