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To: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan.magick,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,alt.religion.wicca,alt.pagan,alt.gothic,alt.tarot From: ncooper@werple.net.au (Nigel Cooper) Subject: Re: Manley Hall & Other Opinions(was "Re:Studying Magick") Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:46:33 GMT On 26 Jun 1996 17:01:35 GMT, taliesin@mail.utexas.edu (George Leake) wrote in reference to the Waite/Smith tarot deck: >*the ways in which this deck differs include the use of reversals (in a >way suggested by Mathers & other GD folks, and quite unlike Etteila's >usage), now taken for granted as "traditional" despite being a relatively >modern invention; I don't know that reversals were suggested by GD folks, other then Matters and Waite. Mathers mentions reversals in a short work, first published in 1888, the year he co founded the GD. Although that work, (A Short Treatise in Tarot), is currently published with a set of images from the Marseilles deck, the deck described in the work is obviously not quite that deck. However, It is definitely not the deck described in the GD's Book T. Waite mentions reversals in his Pictorial Key to the Tarot where he also makes mention of Mathers earlier work, saying that it was intended for fortune tellers. which, indeed, is what Mathers also claims. Waite makes mention of the fact that his own work is intended for the general public. I would suggest that most, (all?), GD members to whom the secrets of Book T had been revealed, used elemental dignitaries rather then reversals in their operations of tarot. >I'm pretty sure Waite also creates the Celtic Cross and >Significator, Mathers makes mention of using a significator in his, above mentioned, 1888 work. Book T which is also prior to Waite's Pictorial Key to the Tarot also talks about a significator. ~ Nigel / Be aware / magic happens here /
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