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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.divination,alt.magick From: F.(I.)N. (666)333Subject: Re: Qabalah or Numerology? Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 07:30:18 GMT 50030901 viii "Jim Shannon" wrote in message #> ...a friend on [is] using letters and numbers a #> basic A=1 set. the "basic A=1 set" is not generally gematria. #> For instance: Since I show that PLATO has values #> of P=16, L=12, A=1, T=4, and O=15, and that these #> Letters form a formula of #> #> P*L*A*T*O = 16*12*1*4*15 = 11,520, not generally numerology (which adds letters in names, rather than multiplying them). #> I have established esoteric values. In each of these #> cases I have established or "decrypted" "hidden truths" #> set against the words by establishing numerical values #> set against the exact same code. occultmouth. #> Is this work Qabalah or does it fall under the realm #> of numerology? "Qabalah" is more than mere numerolinguistics. the term 'numerology' doesn't usually include multiplication. "Frater SG" : # Because of the simplicity of the numbering system I'd # call it Numberology. nice term. # If he were using one of the more complex Gematria # systems then it would be Qabalah. or part of somebody's Qabalah. # Crowley used the Hebrew letters and number # associations even when decoding English words. + Greek # There will always be a fault in using a straight A=1 # system as our modern alphabet has far more characters # than the original Latin or Greek. I don't follow the logic of this. # One should also keep in mind that many Gematric systems # do not enumerate the letters evenly or in the same # pattern as an English A=1 system would. strictly false. A=1... K=20, ... T=200 IS gematria by the Ulian Schemata. however, your apparent intent was to contrast this with A=1...K=11, ... T=20 ... Z=26, which is indeed different. # For example, in Greek you would have Alpha=1, Beta=2, # Gamma=3 and in Hebrew you get Teth=9, Yod=10, Kaph=20, # Lamed=30, etc... indeed. any alphabet could be used to achieve this. # Remember that Gematria is an artificial system is A=1 ... Z=26 a natural system? # so you have to decode messages using the same # system by which they were created. a cypher, yes. 333 f.i. nigris 6 6 6
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